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Friday, March 26, 2010

Let's talk about decisions: The Waitlist

Waitlisted students can use this entry to talk.

We have traditionally offered waitlist spots to a large number of students. In the past, this has been because there are so many different segments to the population here (CLAS/SEAS/SARC/NURS for both VA and OOS students). We have cut the waitlist down a lot this year for a few reasons. This means there aren't as many of you feeling like you are in limbo.

We won't know how large the waitlist is until you all accept or decline your offers (yes, you have to respond online to the offer of a spot on the waitlist). You are not ranked. You have until May 1 to make your decision. There have been years when we've taken 50 students off the waitlist and years when we've taken 250 students off the waitlist. Last year, we offered admission to 288 waitlisted students.

For now, you need to look at your other options and think about which one feels right to you. Some of you will want to hold on and see what happens with the waitlist and others will want to fully invest themselves in another school. Either way, you need to submit a deposit at a school by May 1st to ensure yourself a spot in another school's freshman class. If you are offered a spot in our class and you decide to accept it, you'll have to write to that other school and withdraw your name from the class (you may lose your deposit at that school). Just remember that you can't "double deposit".

Feel free chat here and stay tuned over the weekend for replies to questions. Also know that your envelope will contain a "Waitlist Frequently Asked Questions" sheet that will answer the most common questions (is the list ranked, what do I do now, what's the time line, etc.).


CavDog hopes you find a peaceful place to think about your options

36 comments:

Katie said...

Disappointed to be waitlisted at yet another school.
Question for you Dean J- How many students were waitlisted in total last year? This year? I know you may not know these facts quite yet, but whenever you post them, I would appreciate knowing.
Thanks!

Still Hopeful said...

Dean J,

How many students were OFFERED a position on the waitlist?

Sarah said...

i was wait listed but i'm really confused about how this works. if i accept my spot on the wait list does that mean I won't be able to make a deposit to another school? like if i accept my spot and DON'T send a deposit to another school and still DON'T get offered a spot at UVa, do i just not get to go to college next year?

Anonymous said...

Can we send in more letters or essays, anything that could improve our chances of being admitted to uva? What was the total number of students offered a spot on the list?

FirstYearHoo said...

Sarah, if you accept your spot on the waitlist, you should definitely make a deposit at another school. If you then get into UVa, you probably won't receive your deposit back from your other school. This may answer some other questions about the waitlist in general. It is last year's FAQ post. http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/2009/04/waitlist-faqs.html

Sasha said...

Sarah, you CAN and SHOULD make a deposit to another school. Really, you need to secure a spot at a school to which you have been admitted.

Everyone,
I was in your same position two years ago. I know that this situation sucks. There is really no way to describe it beyond that. That being said, I have two bits of advice for you. Firstly, whether you end up at UVa or another school, if you want to like it, you will. Given you've been waitlisted at UVa, you certainly got into other fine institutions that have a great deal to off. Secondly, do not slack off with senioritis. Your senior year grades are important for reasons that are fairly obvious.

Anonymous said...

I really wish there was some way to make it easier. I applied to 14 schools and this is the only one who's waitlisted me; It was my top-choice, and my sister goes here and we're closest as can be. I really hope I can get removed from the list and be a Wahoo...

Waitlisted said...

Dean J- is it possible to call admissions and ask why I was waitlisted? I don't mean to appeal the decision, i am just curious. I am an OOS applicant with a 2400 SAT and first in my class of 400. Although I realize the competitiveness of admissions, I was a little surprised to have been waitlisted, and I am curious whether there was something wrong with my application.

Anonymous said...

Is it possible to be notified about a wait list decision before may 1st?

a little sad said...

do instate people have a better chance than OSS about getting accepted from the waiting list? How many people were offered a waiting list spot?

At least we were not turned down, so lets just hold up our heads and be proud. i hope those who dont really want to go to UVA will not join the waitlist, so that others who want to go will have a better chance.

UVAfanatic said...

Dean J,

How do you decide who comes off the wait-list if there is no ranking? Do you have some other system for ranking the applicants or is it random?

curious said...

Last years people said they only had a 1% chance of getting off the waitlist, is that still true.

Sunny said...

what is the criteria for the admissions officers to pick the students to get off the waitlist?

Anonymous said...

Hey guys,

I'm a first year at UVA and I was waitlisted and didn't find out until a few days before my graduation. If it is what you want just KEEP YOUR HEAD UP (and grades). When others let the decision get to them and start doing poorly you will not and you will succeed over them. I know how stressful it is, but just pick another school, secure your deposit and get excited for it but always keep UVA in the back of your mind-- send letters, essays, whatever it takes. I guarantee many of you will get that amazing call letting you know you got in!! You obviously are all very smart and got into other amazing places so fall in love with them and keep trying!!! hope to see you on grounds in the fall!

-- first year

illinois mom said...

My son, OOS, was a Jefferson Scholar Semi-Finalist and had high hopes of being accepted. He is now on the waitlist. It was a bit surprising after going through many interviews etc... What is the percentage of Jefferson Scholar semi-finalists that actually get accepted? Thank you...

Anonymous said...

Are students on the waitlist notified either way, Yes or No by a certain timeline, or are you only notified if you are offered a spot?

Anonymous said...

Should we be sending stuff in to help our chances of being accepted?

Anonymous said...

I was a a regional finalist for jefferson scholars, have maintained a 4.1 GPA, and am actively involved in 2 sports and 3 clubs, I also attend a specialized school for science and mathematics. My world came crashing down when I found out I was waitlisted.I am one of the only ones from my school who was waitlisted. What are my chances of getting of the waitlist?

Anonymous said...

Agrees with What?? 4.7 #15, captainof 2 sports teams, numerous honor societies, clubs,.....Others inmy school with far less got in I don't get it besides I odn't bring diversity. Where amI to go?

Sathyamurthi said...

Im a shattered International Student.
Dean J, Really appreciate your blog so much. My SATs are on the low side but I am very confident I can work hard and get very high IB scores in the May exam.

I just want to know the very realistic chances of getting in to UVa as it is the school I WANT TO GO to. How many international students off the wait list do you take? My grades have improved greatly towards the end of the year. Would you consider this Dean J?

:( said...

I'm just..confused. I really didn't think I would get into UVA, but I didn't think that some of the people at my school would get in above me.. I'm happy I'm at least wait listed but I don't want to go through accepting another school and then having to reconsider the option of UVA. I want to just be set on going to a school.


Also, about how many people do they put on the wait list? And can wait listed students attend a day on the lawn? or is that only for students who have definite offers?

Jennifer said...

Dean J,
When I saw that I had been wait listed, I was a bit distraught, and instead of hitting the "Yes, I would like to stay on the wait list" button, I accidentally read too quickly and hit the "No, take me off of the wait list" button, thinking it was the opposite. I immediately e-mailed the office of admissions (I would have called but it was after hours), explaining the situation.

I plan to call and check up on the e-mail, but is there something else I am supposed to do about this? I really love UVA and it is my top choice. I don't want to lose the opportunity to go to such an amazing school just because of a stupid mistake like this. I would love to be reconsidered.

I would also like to add a thank you to you as well. Your blogs have been really helpful throughout this entire process. It is one of the best, and whether I attend UVA or not, I will certainly recommend it to prospectives next year.

Jamie said...

Is the sis not working for anyone else...maybe it is down...can login but nothing comes up under applicant...wanting to accept waitlist but can't

Thanks

Esha said...

Hello Dean J,

I am an international student, but I reside in Virginia and I have been placed on the waitlist. UVa is my number one college of choice, and I am quite baffled that I have been placed on the waitlist while many others in my class have been accepted, who are ranked below me in my class. On what criteria are students placed on the waitlist? and how is the selection made if there is no rank system? and my final question is can I send in additional essays or letters of recommendations in order to help my cause? Thank you

Richmond mom said...

My son was on the waitlist last year and did get an offer of admission, but it came in July. He ended up not accepting, and he only had 24 hours to make the decision. If you stay on the waitlist, be prepared to have a VERY short window of opportunity to think it over. He is, however, now a very happy JMU Duke (and is the son of two UVA grads!!). Good luck to all of you.

Dean J said...

A post all about the waitlist is coming. There will be plenty of statistics and all the normal FAQs will be covered.

if i accept my spot on the wait list does that mean I won't be able to make a deposit to another school?
You should deposit at a school by May 1st.

Obviously, it would be ideal if all of the students who know they are going elsewhere could respond to us before May 1st so we can make waitlist offers before deposits are due. However, that never happens and we don't want to force anyone to rush their decision.

So, you need to deposit at a school you love by May 1. If you put yourself on our waitlist, you may hear from us between late May and late June (ideally). If you accept a spot from us, you need to write to your other school and withdraw from their class.


Can we send in more letters or essays, anything that could improve our chances of being admitted to uva?
Yes. I'll address this in my waitlist post.

is it possible to call admissions and ask why I was waitlisted?
You can, but we will all say the same things. Waitlisted students are those we know will do well here. We just don't have a large enough class to take everyone.

Is it possible to be notified about a wait list decision before may 1st?
It would only happen if all of the students with offers reply before then. It's possible, but highly unlikely.

do instate people have a better chance than OSS about getting accepted from the waiting list?
It all depends on who accepts our offer. I'll explain in my waitlist post.

How do you decide who comes off the wait-list if there is no ranking? Do you have some other system for ranking the applicants or is it random?
I'll address this in the waitlist post.

Last years people said they only had a 1% chance of getting off the waitlist, is that still true.
I don't recall hearing this. Can you cite a source?

What is the percentage of Jefferson Scholar semi-finalists that actually get accepted?
The first two parts of the Jefferson Scholars selection happens in your local area. The rest happens in the offices of the Jefferson Scholars Foundation. We get a list of who is invited to the final round, the part that requires a visit to Charlottesville so we can verify that they are likely to get an offer.

Are students on the waitlist notified either way, Yes or No by a certain timeline, or are you only notified if you are offered a spot?
Yes.

And can wait listed students attend a day on the lawn?
Days on The Lawn is for admitted students.

I plan to call and check up on the e-mail, but is there something else I am supposed to do about this?
There is nothing else to do until Monday.

Is the sis not working for anyone else...maybe it is down...can login but nothing comes up under applicant...wanting to accept waitlist but can't

Clear your browser's cache. That fixes most problems with logging in.

I am an international student, but I reside in Virginia and I have been placed on the waitlist. UVa is my number one college of choice, and I am quite baffled that I have been placed on the waitlist while many others in my class have been accepted...
If you are international, you were not reviewed as a Virginian. Those last two pages of the supplement were the questions that determine whether you are a Virginia resident.

Anonymous said...

Will you be explaining what you mean by "We have cut the waitlist down a lot this year for a few reasons. This means there aren't as many of you feeling like you are in limbo" in your waitlist post? And when can we expect that?
Thank you!

confused said...

Hi Dean J,
I am also curious about why I did not get in. I don't mean to be repetitive, but I have over a 4 GPA, am in 2 honor societies, volunteer, did great on my SATs, SAT 2's, AP's etc...
Right now I am thinking that it's probably because I applied to the College of Science (to major in Bio) and it's much harder to get in there?
Also, thanks so much for all of your updates and posts. They have helped so much!

wannabeahoo said...

As a kind "piggy-back" to Confused's question, I would be interested in finding out the number of applicants vs. the number of offers made in the College of Arts and Sciences vs. The School of Engineering. I am torn between applying to SEAS and focusing on Engineering Science and applying to the College of Arts & Sciences and double majoring in science and math. Any information you have on the odds of getting into these schools would be very helpful. I understand that it might vary slightly from year to year, but if you have any recent statistics, I would appreciate them.

Thanks!

SheWithSlightHubris said...

I have now been waitlisted at four schools...am I the only one who feels like they might not be able to go to a school where they've been waitlisted, just as a matter of pride? I was really interested in UVA, but...it is a blow to the self-esteem...

idon'tknowwhattodo. said...

I completely agree with you! I am still really going to consider going to UVA if I am accepted off the waitlist, but I want to be able to tell people that "I got accepted to UVA", and I feel like coming off the waitlist, it's just not the same, even though I KNOW I am good enough to go here.

Sameer said...

Dean J,

Thanks for helping with all these questions! I look forward to your next post about the wait-list. UVA is my absolute first choice and I am going to do everything in my power to get accepted off the wait-list!

waitlisted:( said...

Dean J,
In your post you said that the waitlisted students were just as good as the accepted students, but the school just didnt have enough room for everyone. If we are just as good, why are we not allowed to attend Days on the Lawn?

waitlisted:( said...

* Sorry, I meant that on SIS it said that we were just as good.

Anonymous said...

Dean J,

I was an alternate for the Jefferson Scholars Finalist weekend and was waitlisted... I'm just extremely confused because if the foundation would have been willing to possibly offer me a scholarship had I been sent to the finalst weekend, why wouldn't the university admit me? Please let me know if there is anything I can do, thank you!

Anonymous said...

Question: In deciding on waitlisted applicants to fill spots do you decide "need blind" to fill spots or only look for prospective students who did not request financial aid?
Thank you!
sad to be waitlisted but optimistic