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Saturday, March 31, 2007

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30 comments:

ABB said...

Sorry, sorry, sorry!!! I was Anon 1 and 2 of the last postings in the waitlist blog. Don't have a blog or web address, just now realized that those were optional fields (insert emoticon of bashful rolling of eyes!!).

About the "falling in love w/ another school" - the waitlist is pretty much a longshot by anyone's estimation, so in the meantime the student mentally prepares themselves for having to go to their 2nd choice. In that month or so (from now until what, June?), the student has to wean themselves away from the UVA mindset in order to be somewhat satified w/ going to school #2 - and thus, can fall in love with #2 after all. If there were a greater chance at getting in off the waitlist, and a faster shot (earlier in May), then who knows. It's very difficult to maintain that initial level of interest when the school of 1st choice didn't reflect the same interest in the student.

Dean J. said...

I would interpret being offered a spot on the waitlist an indication of a school's interest. If a school isn't interested in a student, they would be denied.

ABB said...

True, true, but you have to admit that it isn't quite the same as seeing that "Accepted". And then they have almost 2 months to have to adjust to attending #2 school and seeing that in a more positive light (to make it more palatable!).

Amanda said...

I am currently waiting to hear about transfer decisions, and I just wanted to know if there was a round-about time that transfers will see their status online as well. (It just struck me that since the transfer deadline had been pushed back that we might hear later than around April 30.) Thank you!

Anonymous said...

Dean J,
I noticed that in the previous entry, you said that you notify applicants on the waitlist by the end of June, does this mean ALL waitlisted people, like if there accepted or rejected or just accepted people? Also, what if you won't be in the country towards the end of June into early parts of JUly, and it happens that you get a spot and really want to go but cant notify the University or you just don't know yourself, does that make sense? haha thanks!

~Mimi

Dean J. said...

Amanda, I have nothing new to report on the transfer process. We're reading as fast as we can, include on the weekends. :)

Mimi, when we consider the class full, we'll contact all waitlisted students and let them know. As for being out of the county, I imagine a family member should relay information if communication with the University is necessary.

Transfer Hopeful said...

Weekends even?? Is the transfer application reading-period that stressful/difficult? It seems it would be slightly easier since instead of 18,000 apps in 3 months (6000 a month), its about 2,000. Especially since you guys got a head start, do you think its easier than freshman admissions? Or is it more difficult since there are less CAS spots this year to applicants due to the transfer agreement?

Dean J. said...

When we read first year apps, it's all we're doing. When we're reading transfer apps, we're also traveling and sitting on panels at schools that are doing programs for juniors in high school. I was just in Christiansburg for an afternoon, I'll be in Tidewater next week, and have another program up in Baltimore at some point after that.

On top of that, we have the Days on the Lawn on Mondays and Fridays in April and all the decision calls to take from people unhappy with their admission decision.

We don't really have a full month to read these applications.

By the way, as I expected, there aren't many students who fulfill all areas of the transfer agreement yet. Most of the CC students applying now started school just as the agreement was being made, so they haven't framed their CC career around it.

Matt said...

Dean J,
I thought that if I was deferred early decision, then I couldn't get waitlisted during regular decision. However, imagine my surprise and confusion when I got waitlisted, essentially being deferred again. Can you explain this? Was I wrong to think that I could only either be accepted or rejected in the regular round as a deferee from ED? Thanks.

nikki said...

When will you all send me the financial information- such as if i m eligible for any aid or not or the tuition and residency status...

ALSO- who should i contact at UVA (and phone # if you have it) if i want to know about my residency status? (like whether i have been considered in state or out of state?)

thanks a lot.....!!!!

An Ivy League Parent said...

i have heard that 1st year students are not allowed to have cars- How do you justify that ?because 99% of american colleges have no rules like these (even including NYU which is right in the middle of NYC and where people have parking nightmares!)
(-if NYU doesnot allow this- it is understandable as NY has an extensive subway and bus and rail system.)
-what if a student gets sick at night and needs to be sent to the hospital?-you can't always call 911- you can only call it if it is an emergency.
-how would a student travel home every weekend- even though there is public transportation- it is not that great and i am not thrilled about carpooling as i would not allow my child to travel with an unknown for this long distance.
-what if a student has a home in new york- yes i know charlottesville has an airport but it is small- and i checked prices and they are around 500$- very expensive- so he/she would have to go to richmond to go to newyork- a big big hassle every time.
-I know UVA is a very great school and i am not demeaning it in any way but i just think this rule is ridiculous and i would like to have an explanation.

Dean J. said...

There is no policy that states what must happen to a deferred application. Some ED applications remain competitive in the RD process, but don't quite make it to the offer list.

Nikki, a call to the Office of Financial Services will give you an idea of where the Financial Aid process stands.

Parent, to say that 99% of schools allow cars on campus is a bit of an exaggeration. Many schools have limited student parking and do not allow first year students to have cars on campus. What's more, many student life officials will tell you that allowing first years to have cars increases chances that they will not become fully integrated into the community. This is not a "suitcase campus" where students go home on the weekend.

As for sick students, they are served by the UVa Student Health and the UVa Medical Center right here on Grounds. Getting medical help does not require traveling a great distance. Residence life staff is also in the halls to facilitate when students need medical attention.

As for traveling home, students find multiple ways to go home. Between Amtrak (1/4 mile down Main Street from Grounds), the airport, buses, and carpooling, our students get home for the holidays and breaks without major incident. Many students would rather read or do homework on Amtrak (which pulls right into Penn Station) that drive for 6-7 hours to get to NYC.

Google "freshmen cars on campus" and you'll see that the majority of hits are from colleges that do not allow this. Stanford, MIT, UNC, Vassar, Boston College, and Wash U are just a few of the college sites that come up in the search.

Chris said...

How far is the Greyhound station from campus? Walking distance?

Nate said...

Dean J,
When will you be online (AIM) next to answer some questions I have? Or is it best to ask you them here?

Dean J. said...

The Greyhound station is on Main Street, but it's about a mile from Grounds. You would take the free trolley from Grounds to the station. The same goes for the Amtrak station. You could walk, but with a bag, you'd probably want to take the trolley.

Nate, if you have a personal question, call the Office of Admission and ask to speak with a Dean.

Anonymous said...

does the office mind if we call in to ask about our decision. I mean, can they really tell us what we did wrong or is it a generalized statement that they will be telling us?
~Selina

Dean J. said...

Selina, I assure you that you didn't do anything "wrong". The numbers make it impossible to admit every fantastic student who applies. Look at the numbers again: 18,000 applications and only 6,000 offers of admission. That doesn't mean 12,000 students did something wrong.

Check out my entry about calling the office (link in the next post down) for more information.

marie said...

this might be a weird question- but does UVA library only have scholarly stuff, or does it also have leisure reads like harry potter and dan brown? (if it doesn't then one would have to use the charlottesville library system?)
---also is there barnes and nobles or borders nearby uva (i know of b-n that is in william and mary's campus)

Charles Foster said...

Though I know this isn't the right post, I just wanted to thank UVa for giving me the opportunity to apply, though I was denied, I will apply next year...again...with better hopes.

Anonymous said...

I realize that the waiting list is huge, and that there are different categories (although technically they aren't already separated), but I was wondering if you had any exact numbers yet. I know last year the waitlist ended up around two thousand after people actually accepted spots.~Idaho girl still hoping for a chance

Anonymous said...

I have a quirky question, if you are accepted off the waitlist, which happens around late June, when it comes to housing, are waitlisters offerred last options, I mean arent housing assignments already mailed out by the time waitlisters are chosen?
~Grace

Anonymous said...

Can't wait for August to arrive. It was great news, the acceptance to the top Engineering school in Virginia. Oh to be in Blacksburg, thanks again.

Anonymous said...

Another UVA reject at Tech.

John said...

Hello Dean J,

I am pretty distressed to hear you imply that not all early decision applicants who were deferred were competitve in the regular decision round. I thought that anyone who got deferred ED WAS still competitive, otherwise he/she would have been denied even after the ED round. I guess that means that the people who applied regular decison were even stronger than the ED hopefuls, so a number of the ED deferreds were no longer competitive. Am I getting that right? Anyway, I got dererred ED, and now I'm waitlisted. Part of me says that I'm a fool for not getting the message here -- I've been reviewed twice and still found "lacking" in some way. Another part of me wants to hang in and still go for it. I won't be such a fool not to make a deposit on enrollment at another school before their deadline, but I still hold out hope for good 'ole UVa. From your side, since I believe this was the last year for ED at UVa, I'll bet you're glad you'll never have to deal with the fallout from the ED process ever again.

UVA grad and dad said...

Marie,
There's a Barnes&Noble at the Barracks Road shopping center within walking distance (or on the bus route) from the Grounds. There's also a nice regional library branch on Gordon Avenue right near most of the frat houses and only a block from UVA grounds. Downtown C'ville is well known for its used book stores, too.

Anonymous said...

i think people would leave their names with comments but uva admissions has a weird policy of writing down notes in applicants' files following phone calls. this sort of process freaks many people out, thus they choose anonymity.

Annoyed Hokie/Hopeful Future Cav said...

PLEASE STOP USING THIS THREAD TO BASH VT! It's rude, has zero purpose on here, and just distracts from the entire point of this thread. Dean J already asked nicely, so please follow the request so that this blog's comment section is not closed.
Both schools are excellent, and it reflects poorly(!!) on UVa to have future/current students having this type of attitude towards other people in the world. UVa prides itself on its diversity, so learn to accept diversity, including the type of education/school one has in their life.

Anonymous said...

I agree, the basing is unecessary and childish, get over it

Audrey B. said...

Dean J,

I know you must be very busy right now, but I was hoping you could answer a question for me. I am a transfer applicant who's become very anxious over the past month because my status page says that my college transcript hasn't been received yet (it was sent out from Old Dominion Univ on Feb 14). I was told in an e-mail (around March 1st) by one of the transfer admission assistants that it just takes several weeks to receive and process materials, and that they would contact me if my transcript hadn't arrived by the time my application is reviewed. However, since it's been over a month and my status page hasn't changed, I was wondering if you guys are still receiving and data-entering transcripts at this point?

I'm sorry, I know I sound neurotic, but I'm just worried (well, terrified, really) that I could get rejected from UVA a second time because you guys never got my transcript. It's a little strange, too, because my status page says that my high school transcript was received just fine.

Anything you can tell me would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Audrey B.

Nate said...

Dean J, I am a transfer applicant for this fall and was wondering if you knew the actual numbers of transfer applicants versus openings at the university. And what the transfer acceptance rate is for out-of-state transfers.

Is there anything I can do now, other than submit mid-semester grades, another reccomendation, or new developments with my resume, to win favor with admissions counselors? Thanks for your time.